(08-21-2018, 07:41 PM)DVN Wrote:

(08-21-2018, 07:24 PM)[FL:RP]Fro[Z]en Wrote: Aren't you innocent untill proven guilty? If you have no clue what he said, and don't know if it was even an insult, then how can you Ban him for that reason? the UBR was already created but the fact that you are an admin and get away with this shit is incredible. I feel like the Oneshott case is important to this report so I added it.

Please quote me where I said 'I have no clue' what Oneshott said. I understand Oneshott insulted me I just don't remember whether he said idiot or retard, but regardless an insult to a community member which has since been added to the ban.

Aren't admins there to ensure smooth RP? Then the Admins should first learn how to RP.

You show me a video of a cop ramming a vehicle not running from them for running a red light, then I'll consider you a decent RPer, however today you've proven to not have a clue how cops operate. When you searched someone he asked "shouldn't you ask if I have sharp objects that can poke you" (Something every cop asked) To which you replied: Nah, I am looking for those.

I don't know what to say to this apart from sorry really. You're having a huge go at me and including very minor things like me not saying 'do you have any sharp objects that can poke you' and putting it down to me being a bad roleplayer. I'm not a perfect cop roleplayer but this is a semi-serious RP server, not everything has to be done in major detail like you're complaining about.

Then in the situation with Oneshott you Rammed someone for running a red light, resulting in a vehicular manslaughter (BY YOU) on a civilian, then you showed no care for the civilians life and just said "Didn't have to happen if you didn't run a red light" and then pointed M4's at someone fully co-operating with you. Something that no cop in real life would ever freaking do, and would get them demoted. which is EXACTLY why you lost your job.

This isn't real life, this is a semi-serious roleplay server. If I didn't pull my firearm out I wouldn't have been able to initiate FearRP and the vehicle was of very high performance (BMW) so I didn't want to risk Oneshott getting away.

Then ontop of that you claim he could easily climb out a window... How do you know? You don't know how athletic the person is, and Oneshott's character was clearly saying, NO I CAN'T. The window couldve been to small or he could've had too little room, it's a race car after all. You were blocking his door with your car, he simply said that and you yelled over him, again unrealistic as fuck.

This is where again I believe you're powergaming, you don't decide whether the window is too small or his athletic ability just to get an excuse to break FearRP. This is a semi-serious roleplay server, he should have followed FearRP and jumped out as he would fear his life from 3 officers with firearms pointed at him.

Ontop of that you ignored direct orders from your Superior. The Mayor himself, saying that you should move your car so that the man in the BMW could get out, and saying that you are overreacting. To which you practically insulted the Mayor, your character then also said "Idc if you demote me" So you are saying your character does not care about losing his monthly income? And just ignores superiors fully... Again fully unrealistic.

This isn't unrealistic, this is the whole point of you having the ability to demote your staff in case we didn't follow orders. It's not a rule for me to follow your orders, hence why we allow corrupt police roleplay etc.

Oneshotts decisions made full sense IC and OOC. As IC he couldn't get out, and OOC he couldn't get out cause he'd get stuck, proven by me getting stuck.

You were on the passenger side hence why you got stuck in the wall, Oneshott might not have got stuck and would have probably got out on top of my bonnet, but this is something we both can't prove.

(08-21-2018, 07:25 PM)Oneshott Wrote: It does have to do with both the UBR (Which is already made) and the case at hand, as you turned your failure of RP into someone elses ban. You are ignoring all accusations and are literally just saying "Nah i didnt, u just mad cause ur friend got banned" lol. Actually respond to the accusations at hand, which are Fail RP as a cop, Overreacting to a situation, Not Rping out a situation at hand, CDM by ramming me into a civilian, and taking president immediately after a kick, seemingly making the kick mostly about your hurt feelings of being demoted for being a bad cop.

You broke the rules right in front of me then decided to insult me because you realised I was an admin and didn't agree with how I was roleplaying as an officer. For that reason I decided to punish you as you had no intention of listening to me IC.

(08-22-2018, 03:05 PM)_Enzyme_ Wrote: Dear DVN,

There shall be no conflict within the government. A cop stopping someone for running a red light is understandably, but not under the consequences that you did it. Ramming someones vehicle for running a red light is a very obvious FailRP case. When you then realize it's your superiours that you are stopping, even worse, the rulers of your city/country, then you most definitely don't pull out heavy firearms and give orders. This is to everyone a simple FailRP case, even if it isn't for you. I understand that you need to defend yourself for your rulebreakings but this will not hold it.

As for the kicking. You used your admin privileges to demote a sitting president. You then decide to take his place which proves that you demoted the sitting president to take his job slot. Your defence against this is "Anyone could of taken the place". That doesn't matter at all. What matters is that you demoted the president to then take his job.

Sincerely,
Enzyme

(08-22-2018, 03:52 PM)Oneshott Wrote: The only thing id have to add to what enzyme said is to reiterate that DURING that failRP of being a cop i got a 4 day ban for pointing this out and it being claimed as breaking FearRP, even after roleplaying it in character but just being shouted over. Other than that id say that enzyme has it accurately portrayed.

(08-22-2018, 04:20 PM)[FL:RP]Fro[Z]en Wrote: Enzyme pretty much summed it up. DVN seems to have essentially admitted to FailRP within the comments of this AA and the UBR on Oneshott, and then also used his admin priviliges to take my job. Thanks Enzyme for posting and summing this up pretty well. Let's hope it gets resolved now

(08-22-2018, 05:45 PM)Oneshott Wrote: Lol as you keep mentioning this fear RP, Which i did follow, You DID failRP, not just cause of real life reasons but for in game reasons, these reasons are extremely obvious. And as you stated i have already admitted that so i dont see a reason to keep mentioning it? 3 days for calling it a stupid situation for an admin (Which you forgot to add to the ban reason initially) and a full day for "breaking fear rp" is absurd in my eyes, but thats your judgement not mine. Either way, you created this situation, continuesly calling frozen "my friend" does not make this any less relevant.

As for the FearRP, i did not run, i did not drive, nor did i show any intention to, you were too busy yelling to hear anything, and you had another cop with a gun pointing at me, this has also been pointed out in the UBR but i will mention it here as well, you could have moved your vehicle from the middle of the road so that i could get out properly while still having a cop putting fear RP on me (even though firearms in this situation were utterly uncalled for as i showed ZERO malice and intent to break the laws or run from you.)